if there is money that would be milked

many people feel there is NO clarity in what happens to men in India but I see clarity !!!!! Let me share with you what I see and please feel free to add ….etc…

(a) I see a method to the exploitation.

(a.1) I see a beautiful ‘system’ like an invisible hydra linking 1000s of players who are making a living out of milking honest men

(b) this ‘system’ follows some method (NOT honest NOR moral …) but the ‘system’ has a method. This is like saying the smuggler or the bandit has his method and machinery in place

(c) I am NOT in anyway supporting or espousing this ‘system’, merely explaining it

Here we go

1. if there is money that would be milked
1.2. every one in the system would have a cut [ system => all participants from the lowest guy to the top top ones] http://evinayak.tumblr.com/ ; https://vinayak.wordpress.com/
1.3. as a corollary if there is NO money, hardly anyone in the ‘system’ would care
1.4. Example : if a poor cycle rickshaw puller had two wives nothing much would happen either to him or the wives !
1.5. so money, capacity to earn money, position is the fuel / the motive power that keeps the ‘system’ running
1.6. money generally moves from male to female …in 99% of the case … I agree there are some exceptions …but that is a small %

2. the complaint filing machinery (which is part of the ‘system’) would be kept intact
2.1. IF FALSE complaints are stopped the whole ‘system’ would loose and collapse in the long run
2.2. that is like the owner of a company telling the salesman NOT to sell or the production manager telling people to stop producing
2.3. that will NOT happen
2.4. So… repeatedly false complaints would be filed, repeatedly people WITH money would be threatened and milked, this is the case with 498a, this is the case with 125 , …….DV …tomorrow IRBM ..whatever
2.5. Herein, Criminal complaints are better than civil cases ; the harsher the merrier

3. the ‘system’ preserves itself so participants in the ‘system’ support each other
3.1. lower courts can keep giving wrong / incorrect verdicts, the higher courts will keep repealing it, but NO punishment for the lower courts
3.2. police can keep booking innocents, courts will keep overturning the conviction, but hardly any punishment for the police
3.3. the ‘system’ will make good speeches, will speak to an audience from the high pedestal, but nothing earthshaking or radical will happen
3.4. with every false case booked by police the bail industry, the legal industry, the dalals in between would make a killing

4. in a fight between a man and a  young woman, the young woman would be favored and this will get a good applause for the system
4.1. who will applaud ? MANY people including MEN would applaud !! …especially men who are NOT YET hit by false cases will applaud
4.2. men hating men, aid and abet and morally support the ‘system’ http://evinayak.tumblr.com/ ; https://vinayak.wordpress.com/
4.3. there are many variants to this
4.4. law making, dharnas, media hype etc add a facade of legitimacy to anti male law making
4.5. this public relations chapter is very long, so this summary (in 4 ..4.x) is just a glimpse

5. Most of the criminal laws of India were made by the British 100 …150 years ago
5.1. the British (ok NOT all of them, but some of them) 150 years ago had a different set of morals
5.2. for example many of the British officers in India had relationships with multiple Indian women; repeat multiple
5.3. sex outside marriage was NOT such a great taboo … it was considered an indiscretion….in many cases minor indiscretion
5.4. there are MANY stories of these relationships
5.5, the laws were WRITTEN by these people
5.6. , I.e family laws, criminal laws etc …. most laws are 50 ..100.. years old (in that range) and written by British http://evinayak.tumblr.com/ ; https://vinayak.wordpress.com/
5.7. Exception : Laws for commerce or laws for internet etc (which are new and not necessarily British times) but we are NOT taking of the Sales tax act here !! 🙂

6. how the money machine works …some extras

6.1. it is NO LONGER the money of only the people who pay, it is also the people who fight

some examples of how the ‘fighter’s ‘ money is taken away

6.1. bail = money …actually AB is a lot of money , even NORMAL bail is money
6.2. family case related AB is one of the biggest money making machines / apparatus the ‘system’ uses
6.3. I have been seeing the bail applications on Madras HC and family matters are one of the biggest source
6.4 each AB runs to 10s of thousands
6.5 add family etc

7/ INTERIM MAINT – this is a killer
7.1. even those who fight loos a lot of money on interim maint and that is another major source of money
7.2. in fact in many cases usurious interim maintenance is used as tool to break the will of the honest man http://evinayak.tumblr.com/ ; https://vinayak.wordpress.com/
7.3. many courts do NOT allow appeal of interim maintenance as it is an interlocutory order

8/ also
8.1. every hearing = money
8.2. every travel / trip = money
8.3. high court appeal = more money

again marriage seems so big a gamble in terms of TIME and MONEY that one has to seriously serious evaluate getting married http://evinayak.tumblr.com/ ; https://vinayak.wordpress.com/

9. Correcting a mis conception : Just because you live in a village, marriage doesn’t become rosy and SAFE for you

9/ these days, villagers WITH money are regularly getting hit with false 498a
9.1. please see my blog vinayak.wordpress.com
9.2. villagers WITH money are regularly getting hit with false 498a
9.3. for many months I have been taking stories [from regional language ] and posting with a breif translation in English
(a) The more cohesive village society, (b) prevalance of rural panchayats (weakieing the ‘system’ ) and ( c) the cash economy helps , but still many many middle class people in villages are getting hit
9.4. villages have plus and minuses, and the biggest plus in my humble opinion is that there is NOT much MONEY TRAIL to catch the husband’s salary because the village society is still quite a cash economy and so maintenance is difficult to enforce
9.5. real estate is much more difficult to usurp and give away to the woman
9.6. it is easier to use DV and squat in a posh mumbai house than go to small house in a village and try to sell one room there

so there is NO escape based on geography
In India marriage is a gamble
just the stakes may be big or small depending on how much money the guy (husband / husband’s dad etc..) has
again my earlier poor man and two wives argument


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Father of a lovely daughter, criminal in the eyes of a wife, son of an compassionate elderly mother, old timer who hasn’t given up, Male, activist

3 thoughts on “if there is money that would be milked

  1. vinayak Post author

    Quoting /////Among the grouses of the lawyers is that the law if enacted will eat into their work substantially reducing their income. A sizeable income of the lawyers is generated by Bail related works./////
    full story below :

    Indian lawyers begin unrest against the new amendment to Cr.PC

    The Bar Associations of North Indian states compromising of states of Uttarpradesh, Uttaranchal,Himachal Pradesh, Punjab,Haryana, Jammu and Kashmir and Delhi have announced complete strike on January.19. 2009.

    This is first co-ordinated effort by Bar Associations of India to oppose the Bill which seeks to amend section 41 and section 309 of Criminal Procedure Code of India.

    Different bar Associations in India has been resorting to strikes, quite now and then for the last couple of months.

    Circulars and Bills issued on respective Letter heads of Bar Associations, warn of strict action if any lawyer were to be found violating the call of the strike.

    The lawyers of whole of India would again go on strike on Feb 3 2009.They have announced nation-wide demonstration and protest marches and street corner meeting against the Bill on 18 Feb, 2009.

    Mr Lalit Maken, the Urban Development Minister, who once belonged to legal fraternity, in an interface with lawyers held at Patiala House Courts, Delhi, on 15 Jan 2009 vowed to take up the issue with his colleagues in the Cabinet, the prime minister, and the president of India against the proposed Bill.

    The Bill takes away certain categories of offences under sections 41 and 309 Criminal Procedure Code of India, which gives mandatory arrest power to the police.

    Among the grouses of the lawyers is that the law if enacted will eat into their work substantially reducing their income. A sizeable income of the lawyers is generated by Bail related works.

    According to the proposed amendment it would not be mandatory for the police to arrest the offenders involved in theft, assault, dowry related cases, chain snatching, child abduction, pick-pocketing, stabbing, infringement of copyright and trade marks.

    Human rights groups say that sweeping power of arrest in a poor country like India where 800million people some how manage to earn Rs. 20/- per day, the power punishes the delinquents and their dependents too harshly.

    Thousands languish behind bars for years on ends even after courts have ordered their release, because they are not able to arrange the security anount or equivalent which is usually Rs. ten thousand equivalent to 200 U.S Dollars.

    Lawyers say this will increase the incidence of crime and aggravate security related problems.




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